A place for those who "Trust the Fungus"

You know, I can actually see that happening. Even if the "mistaken for warriors" thing is a bit old and tired, it's just about perfect for our plumbers. The trick is to figure out how to work it seamlessly into the story. Nice job on concentrating the second film on Donkey Kong, too...you almost need to break it up so that it's not just "Koopa comes back from the grave and sets plan B in action." Hell, maybe he can't even come back on his own and needs others to help him--a bit like the Master in "The End of Time," I guess.

PS: Wouldn't it be funny if Dr. Eggman were somehow involved in bringing Koopa back? You could get quite a bit of comedic mileage from he and Koopa doing a "buddy cop" routine, but from the side of the villains.

They're not exactly the most original interpretations of the games, but the do seem to follow the basic archetypes that lend towards a strong hero arc. The early games were simply made for such an interpretation and I think we saw it done mostly well in the Jennewein/Parker script.

The important thing to consider is character motivation. I simply don't feel that Koopa or Donkey Kong's motivations are very strong or well conveyed. Work on that and I think the story will be much stronger because of it.

jka12002 wrote:Ive also thought about having Bob Hoskins and Charles Martinet make cameo appearances in one of my movies, kind of a "passing of the torch" thing to whoever would be playing Mario.

No matter how brief, seeing those two together would be hilarious!

jka12002 wrote:I did consider a fourth film but i thought that would be too much of a drag on the story. The fourth movie would have had Wario as the villian, my version of Wario would have been Super Mario gone "postal" after the kingdom blames him for a mishap that i havent come up with. He would adopt the name Wario after the kingdom's newspaper would label him that.

Interesting twist on the character, though it seems a poor wrap-up for the series. I also wouldn't think as far ahead as a fourth chapter without even completing a full vision for the first or second.

jka12002 wrote:Like the games, pipes would have been the main way of travel for the brothers and villagers of the kingdom, the one where the SMB enter the kingdom from would have been at a shrine where the villages pray, kinda like an alter. It also would have had an ancient look to it.

The pipe-traveling is the one aspect of the games that I really wish they had explored in some way. It's even sorely underrepresented in the original fantasy concept, though there it was at least a thematic presence.

Redstar wrote:

jka12002 wrote:Like the games, pipes would have been the main way of travel for the brothers and villagers of the kingdom, the one where the SMB enter the kingdom from would have been at a shrine where the villages pray, kinda like an alter. It also would have had an ancient look to it.

The pipe-traveling is the one aspect of the games that I really wish they had explored in some way. It's even sorely underrepresented in the original fantasy concept, though there it was at least a thematic presence.

Oooooh, I just had a brainwave: the pipes are installed later as a permanent gateway between dimensions. Kind of a "fostering better relations" thing. But, as with all sci-fi technology, it has to be badly misused somewhere along the line.

Prime Evil wrote:Oooooh, I just had a brainwave: the pipes are installed later as a permanent gateway between dimensions. Kind of a "fostering better relations" thing. But, as with all sci-fi technology, it has to be badly misused somewhere along the line.

I've had something of the same thought before, though I can't recall how exactly I pictured it. I do like the idea of the two worlds being aware of each other.

jka12002 wrote:My version of Wario would have been somewhat of a homage to Superman 3, where Superman became evil with the tainted Kryptonite. I always thought Wario would work that way also as an evil Mario.

It's a good idea, surely, but one that would have to be executed very well to maintain both plausibility and interest. I think the best way to approach such a story would be to have Mario lose his sanity from falling into such a strange world and forget who he is, which forces Luigi to fight both against and for his lost brother.

Redstar wrote:I've had something of the same thought before, though I can't recall how exactly I pictured it. I do like the idea of the two worlds being aware of each other.

I know, it sounded better in my head. I think discussions about it came up when we were talking about a theme-park ride...that was one of my ideas, that you'd get into the train and shoot through a pipe. Whoosh!

jka12002 wrote:I came up with 2 ideas for Mario's transformation into Wario. One was like you said where he would have been brainwashed by unseen forces, the other featured a tainted mushroom that he would eat accidentaly. (Based on the poison mushroom from Lost Levels)

Well, I'm looking forward to how you might execute one or both of those ideas. There's a lot of fun to be had in adapting a concept into a full-on story.

I'd remove the cuss words as they don't really add anything to the scene and they're unessecary. Other that it's pretty good.

jka12002 wrote:Found my rough draft, it was on an old usb flash drive. I began writing it a few years back. Here is a scene from it, its the very first encounter and conversation between King Koopa and Mario:

I really like it. It's realistic, mature in its presentation and above all well-written. It really makes me want to find out what happened both before and after this little slice of the adventure.

I don't mind the instance of "hell" used by Mario, but it does read a little strangely coming from Koopa. Now, his religious doubt fits the concept of his character, but beyond that I just don't see him as one to really use epithets.

jka12002 wrote:Thanks you guys. It tooke me a while to come up with a way to include the famous question mark blocks from the game without it looking too goofy in the movie, i think what did with it in this scene was a good idea.

I love the confrontation with Bowser, it reminds me of a scene outline I wrote in the possible sequel to my fan-film.

Bowser: So your the son of the Legendary Martino...I expected someone fatter.

Mario: I aim to please.

Bowser: He killed my father, I went on quite the rampage searching for him. Tell me, is he still among us?

Mario: Yes, actually.

Bowser: Good for him.

Mario: Where is my brother?

Bowser: Oh him....he's in the brig about to be dangled over the ocean.

Mario: You hurt my brother, I'll do worse things to you that my dad did to yours!

Bowser: *Sneer* I sure hope you try, I've been looking forward to this moment for a very long time...

jka12002 wrote:I came up with 2 ideas for Mario's transformation into Wario. One was like you said where he would have been brainwashed by unseen forces, the other featured a tainted mushroom that he would eat accidentaly. (Based on the poison mushroom from Lost Levels)

You could also go with something like King Tut from Batman: he gets whacked on the head by a hammer from the Hammer Bros. and becomes Wario. Someone then finds out that he switches back to Mario after hearing a key word or phrase, and you could get a lot of comedic mileage out of two people shouting the phrase back and forth while he goes from Mario to Wario.

Alternatively, you could use the "poison mushroom" in true Jekyll and Hyde fashion, though the 'shroom itself shouldn't occur naturally (it should *be* poisoned by someone who wants him dead). One of the themes of Jekyll and Hyde is not that the potion is addictive, but the feeling of having no restraints. You could adapt this to your own story and run wild with it.

if any of you guys were wondering about Mario's first girlfriend Pauline. She would be in the first film but only for a small role, she would be in a scene where Mario and Pauline break up wiht each other because Mario's lack of a job at that time.

You know at this point, I tihnk you should post the entire script.

Dont worry i plan on sharing more scenes from the script with you guys.

Decided to share another scene with you guys, this time its the only appearance of Pauline from Donkey Kong and the proposed cameo role for Bob Hoskins as the landlord of the building the brothers are living in.

INT : Mario Bros. Apartment, Night.

After a disastrous day of finding work in the city, the brothers are settled in their apartment room. Mario is reclining on the living room sofa, aggravated and stressed. He thinks about the possibility of being evicted if they don't find a job soon. Luigi is at the table opposite of Mario having a microwave burrito for dinner.

Luigi :
Will you stop worrying about it man? We may be able to find a job tommorow.

Mario ignores Luigi, still staring at the ceiling.

Luigi :
Hello, earth to Mario.

Mario :
What do you want me to say? What makes you think we will even find a job tommorow, we may never find jobs Luigi. Soon we'll be out on the street eating out of the garbage can.

Luigi:
Whatever, you are so dramatic bro.

Luigi chuckles, Mario does not find his remark funny, he gets up from the couch and angrily walks over to Luigi.

Mario :
You think everything is a joke dont you? It wont be funny if we do get evicted from this place!

The doorbell rings.

Mario :
Look, that might be the landlord right now! "Mr.Mario, you have 3 days to pack up your crap and GET OUT!!!"

Mario walks over to the door quickly, Luigi has a stunned look on his face. Mario opens the door, it is not the landlord but his college sweetheart Pauline.

Mario :
Oh...hi Pauline.

Pauline :
....Hi....

Mario :
Wanna come in?

Pauline :
I...I cant....I just came to tell you something...

Mario :
Well..what?

Pauline :
I'm breaking up with you.

Mario :
Wha....why?! Ive been good to you!

Pauline :
I want to be with someone who can take care of me, someone with a JOB. Which is something you dont have. I'm sorry Mario but you are a loser.

Mario :
Then why the hell are you talking to me then? There's the exit.

Mario points to the main entrance of the apartment building.

Pauline :
Look I....

Mario :
Dont....just get outta here and leave me alone. Go find your perfect man.

Pauline :
UGH!

Pauline turns around and angrily walks away to the entrance. The landlord's room door opens, the landlord sticks his head out first looking at Pauline and then turns to look at Mario.

Landlord :
Found a job yet?

Mario :
....No

Landlord :
That's too bad, because your rent bill is coming in a week. Hope you got the money for it by then.

Mario :
Dont worry, we'll have it by then.

Landlord :
Right, sure you will....

The landlord closes his door, Mario angrily slams his door shut.

Landlord (yelling from his room)
HEY, I THOUGHT I TOLD YOU NOT TO SLAM MY DOORS!!!

Mario (under his breath)
Shut up....old fart.

Mario walks over to the couch and sits down. He looks and sees Luigi staring at him

Mario :
What?

Luigi :
Nothing bro.....nothing.

I didn't really enjoy this scene as much as the first. It just doesn't hold my interest, though that's likely due to how clunky and unnatural the dialogue reads. Dialogue should be smooth and concise and often fragmented to truly capture how people talk.

I also found it confusing when Mario mimics their landlord's voice only for him to actually pop his head out later. It took two reads for me to understand it wasn't him speaking the first time.

Well this scene is supposed to show the frustration the brothers were going through before they became heroes in the mushroom kingdom. Hence leading to Luigi's willingness to stay in the kingdom in the third film.

Another scene for you guys to read. Its the opening sequence. Enjoy


Fade In,Title Card : " 8 YEARS AGO"

Crossfade to EXT : Toadstool Castle, Evening

The Mushroom Kingdom is holding a celebration of Princess Peach's 10th birthday. Guest from other kingdoms gather at the castle for the occasion.

CUT TO : INT : Toadstool Castle, Ballroom.

Most of the guests are chatting to one another, laughter echoes in the ballroom as they tell jokes to each other. We hear a glass being tapped, standing on the grand staircase is King Toadstool, holding a wine glass. The guest turn and give the King thier attention.

King Toadstool :
I'd like to thank you all again for coming this evening, to celebrate my daughter's birthday. I appreciate your kindness and your love for her. I just wanted to make a toast to my daughter. She will be your queen one day.

The King raises his wine glass and the guests do the same, except for one...

King Toadstool :
To Princess Peach!

Guests :
To The Princess!

The guests drink from thier glasses at the same time along with the King. We see one of them has not, he is King Koopa of the Koopa Kingdom. King Toadstool still thinks that the Mushroom Kingdom and Koopa Kingdom are still allies, he is unaware of what is about to happen tonight.

King Koopa :
Drink up, you pathetic excuse for a King. While you're still breathing.

King Toadstool :
And Now! I would like for my friend, King Koopa to come up and present his gift to my daughter Peach.

Princess Peach approaches King Toadstool, the King takes her by the hand and gently holds her hand as she walks up the stairs and stands next to him. The guests make a path for King Koopa as he approaches with a wooden box. Koopa has his left hand under the box as he gets closer to the King and Princess.

King Toadstool :
Is there anything you would like to say to my daughter before you present you gift?

King Koopa :
Why yes, I wish for you to have a long and prosperous life in the Mushroom Kindgdom. So that you may one day....

King Koopa gives King Toadstool a menacing glare.

King Koopa :
Witness the day i claim it!

Koopa pulls out a dagger from underneath the box, several of the guests reveal to be Koopa Troopas and they soon begin to attack Toadstool's guards, the other guests begin to run out the main entrance in fear. Koopa lunges forward with the dagger, King Toadstool dodges and clobbers Koopa with a left hook to his face.

King Toadstool :
Get her to safety! Now!

Guard :
Yes sir.

The guard lifts Peach up in his arms and quickly runs up the staircase with her.

Peach :
Daddy!!

Koopa and King Toadstool exchange punches, King Toadstool knocks the dagger out of Koopa's hand, the dagger falls down the stairs. King Toadstool grabs Koopa by his neck.

King Toadstool :
What is the meaning of this betrayal Koopa? We were allies!

King Koopa :
I would rather burn in HADES than be allies with you! May the Mushroom Kingdom FALL!!!!

A Koopa Troopa sneaks up behind King Toadstool and places a Bob-omb grenade on the King's back. Koopa sees it and breaks Toadstool's grasp on him, Koopa jumps down from the stairs. Toadstool sees it as it is about to explode, he closes his eyes. The Bob-omb detonated, the King lunges forward in pain, he slowly drops to his knees, the Queen witnesses it and screams in terror.

Queen Toadstool :
NO!

The Queen runs down to her husband, Koopa and his men quickly make thier escape as the castle guards chase them down. Queen Toadstool hold her lifeless husband in her arms as she begins to weep. Her mournful screams echo through the ballroom.

Fade out

MAIN TITLE APPEARS : SUPER MARIO BROS.

jka12002 wrote:Another scene for you guys to read. Its the opening sequence. Enjoy

Now that is the start of an epic movie!!!

Conserning the 3rd installment ive thought about making it a brutal/gritter movie in the vein of Licence To Kill due to the now personal rivalry or Mario and King Koopa. I also considered having some brutal scenes in this movie too but im not sure how Mario fans would react to that. Ive thought about a scene where Mario shoves a Bob-omb into Ludwig Von Koopa's mouth and shoves him into a room , all you would see is a burst of green blood on the door and a loud POP

jka12002 wrote:Conserning the 3rd installment ive thought about making it a brutal/gritter movie in the vein of Licence To Kill due to the now personal rivalry or Mario and King Koopa. I also considered having some brutal scenes in this movie too but im not sure how Mario fans would react to that. Ive thought about a scene where Mario shoves a Bob-omb into Ludwig Von Koopa's mouth and shoves him into a room , all you would see is a burst of green blood on the door and a loud POP

Has the workings of a sour note. If you must do this, find a way of doing it so that it fits in with the rest of your world...it needs a bit more of a Looney Tunes/Marx Brothers flavor so you can get the blend of tension and comedy.

jka12002 wrote:Conserning the 3rd installment ive thought about making it a brutal/gritter movie in the vein of Licence To Kill due to the now personal rivalry or Mario and King Koopa. I also considered having some brutal scenes in this movie too but im not sure how Mario fans would react to that. Ive thought about a scene where Mario shoves a Bob-omb into Ludwig Von Koopa's mouth and shoves him into a room , all you would see is a burst of green blood on the door and a loud POP

Very reminiscent of the climax for several of the film's early scripts. I like that. Definitely a battle that deserves to be explored again.

Just wanted to share the actors i had in mind for the roles, just incase you guys were wondering too:

Mario : Anton Yelchin, Angus T Jones
Luigi : Shia Lebuf
Voice of Koopa : Jeremy Irons, Michael Ironside,Ralph Finnes,Frank Welker,Sean Connery
Voice of Donkey Kong : Andy Serkis
Peach : Hayden Penniterre,Emma Watson
King Toadstool : Stephen Lang
Queen Toadstool : Helen Mirren
Voice of Toad : Rowan Atkinson

I personally think you should gone all out. Have the first one be PG, the second PG-13, and third R rated. Since this most likely won't be an actual trilogy you might as well go this route.

Hey, we here at the forums like to push things. Just look at Serum's fan screenplay and the blu-ray/extended cut re-release push.

Hmm, a Mario movie influenced by James Bond. That may actually have some promise.