7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

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Re: 7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

Postby Serum » Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:18 pm

A little bit off topic, but here's a movie written by Jennewein and Parker from 1992-- this is presumably what they did after getting fired from "Super Mario Bros."



I can tell from the trailer alone that I'm glad they didn't do the final product of "Super Mario Bros.," I for one am a snob who prefers my children's movies to be more adult, thank you very much. :mrgreen:
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Re: 7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

Postby Redstar » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:23 am

Serum wrote:A little bit off topic, but here's a movie written by Jennewein and Parker from 1992-- this is presumably what they did after getting fired from "Super Mario Bros."

They weren't fired. They were just let go along with the rest of the production following director Beeman's departure.

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Re: 7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

Postby Phlibbit » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:58 pm

Redstar's right. The only people from the fantasy production to carry over to the sci-fi version were Patrick Tatopolous and Chris Woods.

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Re: 7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

Postby Serum » Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:45 pm

Redstar wrote:They weren't fired. They were just let go along with the rest of the production following director Beeman's departure.

To me "let go" is just a politically correct term for "fired." I've been "let go" from jobs before, but it was always a firing-- I don't like the term "let go," as it's just a nice way of saying "F you, you're fired."

But I digress, this "Stay Tuned" movie looks and feels like their script for "Super Mario Bros.," and in the end, it's probably for the best that they were, as you put it, let go from the production. Frankly, if it were up to me, "Super Mario Bros." would have been an R-rated balls-to-the-wall cyberpunk movie along the lines of "The Matrix." I would have been Disney's worst nightmare as an executive producer, but people would have gone to see the movie.
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Re: 7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

Postby superwesleybros » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:18 pm

I think they should have made two movies.

This script feels more along the lines of an animated feature film, and the other would be the SMB movie we know and love today.

It's not uncommon for a franchise to release two movies at once. Look at Batman: Subzero (Animated) and Batman and Robin. (Live Action) both released at the same time and having similar story lines.
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Re: 7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

Postby Redstar » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:06 am

Serum wrote:
Redstar wrote:They weren't fired. They were just let go along with the rest of the production following director Beeman's departure.

To me "let go" is just a politically correct term for "fired." I've been "let go" from jobs before, but it was always a firing-- I don't like the term "let go," as it's just a nice way of saying "F you, you're fired."

I don't know. Either way you're no longer on the project, but I think being "let go" as opposed to being "fired" carries far different political implications. No one holds it against you.

superwesleybros wrote:I think they should have made two movies.

It could've worked. I would have no problem with a feature-length Super Show film.

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Re: 7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

Postby Serum » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:27 am

Redstar wrote:It could've worked. I would have no problem with a feature-length Super Show film.

Right, because the Super Show was quality material. I think the Super Mario Bros, Super Show had even less to do with the Mario games than the movie itself... :?
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Re: 7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

Postby Redstar » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:18 pm

It had an actual fantasy world with semi-accurate depictions of the game enemies. Pretty accurate, even if the characterizations were weak.

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Re: 7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

Postby Serum » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:21 pm

Redstar wrote:It had an actual fantasy world with semi-accurate depictions of the game enemies. Pretty accurate, even if the characterizations were weak.

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Re: 7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

Postby Phlibbit » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:20 pm

I love, love, loved the Super Show. The game characters at the time didn't have a whole lot of characterization and I liked how, although stereotypical, they gave Mario/Luigi/Princess/Toad character traits. Like how Mario is brave and always hungry and Luigi is always a coward but finds strange, clever ways to get out of situations. The Nintendo Adventure Series books featuring SMB also had the same vibe.

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Re: 7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

Postby superwesleybros » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:21 pm

Serum wrote:You can paint rust any color you want, it's still rust.

The super show ain't that bad, It was the first official Mario Cartoon of it's time. Like Sonic Animated before SATam. It was kooky and didn't follow the established formula. But then SMB:3 and SMW came around and followed it more to the style of the games.
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Re: 7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

Postby ultimateemail5000 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:32 pm

I think back in the day they should have made a live action made for TV movie based on Super Show. The same way they made a semi live acttion Teddy Ruxpin tv moviee, even though that was jjst a pilot, with to big of a budget to have as a weekly series thus making it forced to be an animted series.But with Super Show they could have had the same actors and show how they got to the mushroom kingdom, save the Princess scenario.

I enjoy the early draft gut the more I look at it, I don't enjoy how they make Mario a scrooge. Marios supposed to be a happy guy who helps out. Not a guy who trys to scam, or get involved with the mob. Lou Albano had the character right saying Mario is a good guy who's clujbsy but always there basicly saying he's a good guy. I can't remember his exact words but its in a interv iew with him on the DVD.

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Re: 7/17/91 (Fantasy--Jennewein/Parker) Script Discussion

Postby Tailikku » Sun May 06, 2012 5:37 pm

superwesleybros wrote:Bowser's joke, "was it something I said?" after the old man died. Dark
That's more of a deadpan comment

superwesleybros wrote: Bowser Throwing Luigi and Toad off a cliff, Dark.
Are you suggesting the same thing if it's done in Smash Bros?

superwesleybros wrote:Bowser dying in Lava...kinda Dark




And to anybody who's seen some of ChaosCroc's Koopa works or the works of CaseterMK on dA before reading this, Hildy's transformation into a Koopa will seem very familiar

And why is it that Beedleman dressing as Hildy seems so much like the ending to NSMBWii


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