The Batman Films

[1upmushroom]

Let's face it, in terms of film franchises Batman has been treated very well. Granted,there have been flops, it's mostly gold. Here are my honest opinions. Be aware this are my opinions only.

1. Batman 1989: 5 out of 5. Simplly, the perfect Batman film. It's action packed, it has serious moments, Jack Nicholson as the Joker, an amazing score by Danny Elfman, and of course it's seriously yet very goofy at the same time.

2. Batman Returns: 4 out of 5. A superb sequel with great style, great action scenes, Danny Devito as the Penguin, and another great score. However, the problem with this sequel is that it's a bit more darker than needed. Also since it's so dark, you need to be in a certain mood to enjoy it.

3. Batman Forever: 3 out of 5. Not a bad sequel, but it's a bit silly now and by far the first Batman managed to get the balance right. Though I enjoyed the set very well with the neon and all.

4. Batman amd Robin: 1 out of 5. It sucks, but you already know that.

5. Batman Begins: 4 out of 5. Not sure about this one. I just like it, it's a good reboot.

6. The Dark Knight: 4 out of 5. Great movie for one reason. Heath Ledger as the Joker. Other than it's too gritty for Batman to be taken seriously. I mean it's a man in a Bat suit beTing up a man in clown makeup for Godsake.

[Serum]

My favorite is still "Batman & Robin," I saw it in theaters twice in `97 and I own the 2-disc 'ultimate edition' on DVD.

[1upmushroom]

My favorite is still "Batman & Robin," I saw it in theaters twice in `97 and I own the 2-disc 'ultimate edition' on DVD.

[1upmushroom]

My favorite is still "Batman & Robin," I saw it in theaters twice in `97 and I own the 2-disc 'ultimate edition' on DVD.

I read it again and I still can't believe it!

[Redstar]

I watched Batman & Robin for the first time in years earlier this year with my girlfriend and we had a blast. Yeah, it's not a good Batman adaptation at all (has neither the grit and emotion or lighthearted comic adventure that makes the property so successfully translated) but it's still hilarious.

[1upmushroom]

Actually I also think this way. While as a Batman, it sucks SO MUCH. As a parody, it's not that bad. In fact, it's much more enjoyable if you assume the filmmakers inteded it to be like that

However I just can't grasp the idea that Serum, the guy that made the grittiest remake script of Super Mario Bros, the guy that Bizarro Fiction, and has Watchmen up there in his top 19 favorite graphic novels of all would choose Batman and Robin as hi film! Especially with all the other Batman films!

I'm surprised Phlibbit hasn't responsded, being a burton fan.

[Serum]

Actually I also think this way. While as a Batman, it sucks SO MUCH. As a parody, it's not that bad. In fact, it's much more enjoyable if you assume the filmmakers inteded it to be like that

However I just can't grasp the idea that Serum, the guy that made the grittiest remake script of Super Mario Bros, the guy that Bizarro Fiction, and has Watchmen up there in his top 19 favorite graphic novels of all would choose Batman and Robin as hi film! Especially with all the other Batman films!

I'm surprised Phlibbit hasn't responsded, being a burton fan.

Okay, first of all, I wrote a fan-fiction screenplay based on a movie that nobody watched-- anybody could do it.

Second, Bizarro Fiction isn't Shakespeare, or anything. In fact it's just trashy horror/sci-fi with over the top themes.

Third, "Watchmen" is on everyone's top ten graphic novels of all time, it's just a good story everyone enjoys.

Fourth, I didn't like "Batman Begins," in fact, I absolutely hated it. "The Dark Knight" was okay but it was just too damn serious.

Fifth, I grew up watching the Adam West "Batman," and "Batman & Robin" is like a modern day adaptation of that show, so I enjoyed it a lot.

And finally, just because it's my favorite of the "Batman" movies doesn't make it a good movie, it just means I enjoyed it more than the others.

[1upmushroom]

Actually I also think this way. While as a Batman, it sucks SO MUCH. As a parody, it's not that bad. In fact, it's much more enjoyable if you assume the filmmakers inteded it to be like that

However I just can't grasp the idea that Serum, the guy that made the grittiest remake script of Super Mario Bros, the guy that Bizarro Fiction, and has Watchmen up there in his top 19 favorite graphic novels of all would choose Batman and Robin as hi film! Especially with all the other Batman films!

I'm surprised Phlibbit hasn't responsded, being a burton fan.

Okay, first of all, I wrote a fan-fiction screenplay based on a movie that nobody watched-- anybody could do it.
Second, Bizarro Fiction isn't Shakespeare, or anything. In fact it's just trashy horror/sci-fi with over the top themes.
Third, "Watchmen" is on everyone's top ten graphic novels of all time, it's just a good story everyone enjoys.
Fourth, I didn't like "Batman Begins," in fact, I absolutely hated it. "The Dark Knight" was okay but it was just too damn serious.
Fifth, I grew up watching the Adam West "Batman," and "Batman & Robin" is like a modern day adaptation of that show, so I enjoyed it a lot.
And finally, just because it's my favorite of the "Batman" movies doesn't make it a good movie, it just means I enjoyed it more than the others.

Well then perhaps I should have reworded my sentance. I'm sorry. I myself perferred the burton films over the Nolan ones.

[Prime Evil]

Out of the Schumacher films, Batman Forever wasnt so bad. ALthough i hated how Two Face was portrayed in the film. Two Face never refered to himself in 3rd person.

"PATIENCE HELL WE WANT HIM DEAD!"

That's...not exactly third person, but first-person plural (I think). Doesn't matter, though, it's still overly cheesy, and it's something that only Venom (from Spider-Man) can do properly.

Here's another way to think about the Burton/Schumacher Batman legacy: It goes from dark and gritty to light and campy precisely because he's been making Gotham City a better place. There's less real crimes such as gang violence, so any criminals worth their salt have to make a "big" impression. Also, remember that, in the first one, Batman sent all those Smylex-laden balloons up into the stratosphere. That's got to have some effect on those of more fragile mental stability...it probably smelled a lot like freshly-baked ham too.

[Serum]

Actually, there's one or two instances in "Batman Forever" where Two-Face refers to himself in the first person, the one I can think of off the top of my head is towards the end of the movie when they're in the oil refinery and Batman says something profound to him and he replies "Yes, I suppose you're right, Bruce. You were always a good friend to me."

[Prime Evil]

Fourth, I didn't like "Batman Begins," in fact, I absolutely hated it. "The Dark Knight" was okay but it was just too damn serious.

I find I have the reverse. For me, Begins is wonderful, but Dark Knight is the one I can't stand very much. All I can say is, when the Joker crashed Bruce's party for Harvey Dent, that is where "Partyman" was desperately needed. Although, it does have the best plot-based joke that doesn't come out until you've watched it a few times...it's the only one where the Batmobile lost its wheel and the Joker got away.

[Phlibbit]

I'm surprised Phlibbit hasn't responsded, being a burton fan.

I'm much, much more of a Batman fan than I am a Burton fan, although I like a lot of Burton's stuff. If you didn't know, I've written Batman-related comic book reviews for years over at Batman-On-Film and started doing others over at Modern Myth Media.

Anyway, about the Batman films specifically: they're all good in one way or another. It's just a testament to how versatile Batman is as a character. Think about just how many interpretations we've seen over the years from the comics, movie serials, movies, cartoons, games, etc. He just "works" as long as the core aspects of the character are maintained. Some of the films (like Burton's) don't adhere to some of these, but those errors are forgivable because of everything else those films brought to the genre and the character.


So anyway, I'll let you know kind of my overall take on the films but I really can't rate them because they're all so different. Some of them you can watch over and over and some you kind of have to psyche yourself up to watch them.

Let's face it, in terms of film franchises Batman has been treated very well. Granted,there have been flops, it's mostly gold. Here are my honest opinions. Be aware this are my opinions only.

1. Batman 1989: 5 out of 5. Simplly, the perfect Batman film. It's action packed, it has serious moments, Jack Nicholson as the Joker, an amazing score by Danny Elfman, and of course it's seriously yet very goofy at the same time.

It's good. Not perfect by any means--it's quite flawed as a film actually. But it's just so different, especially for the time it was made. Anton Furst's set design is brilliant and it gives the whole atmosphere of the film this timeless kind of quality that I think really suits the story that was being told. Keaton was such an inspired choice for Bruce Wayne/Batman but again, it perfectly fit with what Tim Burton wanted to do with the character. Nicholson's Joker also works in the context of the film--he really reminds me of the Joker from the 1970s Rogers/Engelhart stories. And of course, Danny Elfman's score is just brilliant.

2. Batman Returns: 4 out of 5. A superb sequel with great style, great action scenes, Danny Devito as the Penguin, and another great score. However, the problem with this sequel is that it's a bit more darker than needed. Also since it's so dark, you need to be in a certain mood to enjoy it.

Other than the Nolan films, Batman Returns is one of the Batman films I respect the most. It has the most thought put into it out of a vast majority of superhero films in terms of the characters and themes. It's just brilliant on so many levels. The mood and atmosphere, the darkness really works for the film. Like I said earlier (and like you stated, 1up), it's a film you really have to be in a certain mood to watch but it's held up very well over the years in my opinion. DeVito as the Penguin was so interesting, and while a lot of people don't like the direction Burton took the character because it's nothing like the comics, I thought it was really great. There wasn't a whole lot of substance to the character at the time the film was made and I think he was probably the most tricky thing to integrate into the film.

Just read some of the early Sam Hamm drafts for "Batman II" and you'll see what I mean--the Penguin in that script is just horrible. While Batman Returns started the trend of "focusing" on the villains, it makes sense here because of the reflections they all have between one another (Batman/Catwoman/Penguin/Max Shreck). Studio involvement could've been a lot worse for this film, by the way--in early drafts Shreck was actually Penguin's brother (which I think is kind of interesting) and Marlon Wayans was cast as Robin. Burton cut that stuff out of the film though so it wouldn't be so crowded and I'm glad he focused on the characters that he did.

Overall, it's not "my Batman" but it's one hell of a film.

3. Batman Forever: 3 out of 5. Not a bad sequel, but it's a bit silly now and by far the first Batman managed to get the balance right. Though I enjoyed the set very well with the neon and all.

This film had a lot going for it, but studio involvement, bad casting and dumbing down of the script really hurt the film overall. Tommy Lee Jones was a horrible, horrible Two-Face and I don't know if that's his fault, or the script's, or Schumacher's (a lot of fans think it was Tommy Lee's fault). Overall, Tommy Lee's Two-Face is trying too hard to be the Joker and Jim Carrey's Riddler is trying too hard to be Frank Gorshin's Riddler. The whole thing feels like a amped-up version of the 60s show although Batman & Robin was even worse for that.

A lot of the themes they attempted to explore were very good ones in terms of Bruce's struggle with giving up being Batman and his interactions with Dick Grayson, but they cut all the good stuff out of the film. Schumacher's Director's Cut would fix a LOT of problems I have with this film and it would be much better because of it.

4. Batman amd Robin: 1 out of 5. It sucks, but you already know that.

Although Batman & Robin is a rushed, hopeless cash-in that they only made two years after Batman Forever, it has a few (and I mean a few) redeeming qualities. Mainly the stuff with Bruce and Alfred.

Think about it--George Clooney is one hell of an actor, and he was in this film way before he made it big in Hollywood. With the right script and director, Clooney could've made a fantastic Bruce Wayne/Batman.

Also, if you can find it online, there's a fanedit of this film called Batman & Robin: De-assified in which an attempt was made to remove all the camp and crap from the movie. It's an interesting watch.

For some other cool tidbits about the film, check out my thread over at BOF about my observations from the B&R "Making Of" book.

5. Batman Begins: 4 out of 5. Not sure about this one. I just like it, it's a good reboot.

I don't get people's current dislike or backlash toward Nolan's films. I just don't get it. These films are fantastic, and they're the DEFINITIVE versions of the character. The other films are great interpretations, but what Nolan did will stand the test of time.

It's like Nolan and Goyer took Bill Finger and Bob Kane's original concept and ideas for Batman and translated it into plausible reality and they really gave weight to Bruce Wayne's plight and his journey. Nolan's Batman is "my Batman," plain and simple. Of the Nolan films so far, Begins is the most rewatchable and timeless. I have a good hunch that many of the themes here are going to carry on into The Dark Knight Rises.

6. The Dark Knight: 4 out of 5. Great movie for one reason. Heath Ledger as the Joker. Other than it's too gritty for Batman to be taken seriously. I mean it's a man in a Bat suit beating up a man in clown makeup for Godsake.

The Joker is only one reason why this film is so great. Like I said above with how the filmmakers approached Batman, "Team Nolan" did the same for the Joker. They do a great job of getting to the "core" of these characters and making them work in a realistic context.

Still, TDK is a hard film for repeat viewings just because of the depressing nature of the story and its outcome--but it is essential for what makes Batman important and what makes him a symbol.

[superwesleybros]

I wish they would have villians we havent seen before in the recent movies. Hell Scarface and Ventrilloquist would have been great as well.

I would have liked to have seen Baby Doll or Man Bat.

[Serum]

You people are just making up supervillains, now.

[1upmushroom]

You people are just making up supervillains, now.

Uh, those were actual supervillains that appeared in comics and the cartoon series.

[Serum]

You people are just making up supervillains, now.

Uh, those were actual supervillains that appeared in comics and the cartoon series.

And what an impression they've made on me.

[superwesleybros]

You people are just making up supervillains, now.

Batman: The Animated Series is where there from.

batman.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Doll
batman.wikia.com/wiki/Man-Bat

[Redstar]

You people are just making up supervillains, now.

Man-Bat isn't a particularly high-profile rogue in the Batman comics, but Baby Doll was a very tragic character in the animated series. Most of the villains in the show were.

[Wesr]

The Nolan movies do nothing for me. The only good part is the Tumbler/batmobile. ledger was a horrid joker, he's nothing like any of the jokers I've ever seen. To me Arkham Asylum/city and the animated series is way better than the movies. I did like Two Face's makeup design though.

[superwesleybros]

The Nolan movies do nothing for me. The only good part is the Tumbler/batmobile. ledger was a horrid joker, he's nothing like any of the jokers I've ever seen. To me Arkham Asylum/city and the animated series is way better than the movies. I did like Two Face's makeup design though.

My only gripe with the Nolan films is, Christian Bale as Batman...his voice is soooo bad I can't understand him at all.

[Serum]

The Nolan movies do nothing for me. The only good part is the Tumbler/batmobile. ledger was a horrid joker, he's nothing like any of the jokers I've ever seen. To me Arkham Asylum/city and the animated series is way better than the movies. I did like Two Face's makeup design though.

My only gripe with the Nolan films is, Christian Bale as Batman...his voice is soooo bad I can't understand him at all.

Christian Bale in anything other than "American Psycho" is usually pretty bad. He wasn't a good Batman, at all. I would have cast Bruce Campbell as an aging Batman in an adaptation of Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns." You know you'd watch that movie.

[superwesleybros]

Christian Bale in anything other than "American Psycho" is usually pretty bad. He wasn't a good Batman, at all. I would have cast Bruce Campbell as an aging Batman in an adaptation of Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns." You know you'd watch that movie.

I'll have to check that out.

[Prime Evil]

Man-Bat isn't a particularly high-profile rogue in the Batman comics, but Baby Doll was a very tragic character in the animated series. Most of the villains in the show were.

Speaking of which, I think Killer Croc would have been even better in Batman Returns than the Penguin. He'd've tied in better with the human animal/circus freakshow premise, and his living in the sewers would have been justified as the "alligators" urban legend. He could work realistically, too--just say he's got some kind of genetic disorder that gives him the Innsmouth look.

All together now, everyone: "HITTIM WIDDA ROCK!"

[superwesleybros]

I saw the trailer for Dark Knight Rises....My hopes are way low for this outing.

[Phlibbit]

Great! That way, Chris Nolan can surprise the crap out of you when the film comes out.

[superwesleybros]

Great! That way, Chris Nolan can surprise the crap out of you when the film comes out.

I hope your right Phlibbit. Though I'm more excited to see 007 Skyfall in November.

[Wesr]

Most of the movies this year i'm going to wait for dvd unless my fiance and our girlfriend come down and i get dragged to the theater. I'd rather go to a used book store or a museum lol. The Nolan films are okay but I hated their version of the joker for sure and I only ever liked Christian Bale in American Psycho. We need more animated batman movies with the animated series cast (minus mark hamill as he quit as the joker but the dude that does Bender did a good joker in Under The Red Hood).

[superwesleybros]

Most of the movies this year i'm going to wait for dvd unless my fiance and our girlfriend come down and i get dragged to the theater. I'd rather go to a used book store or a museum lol. The Nolan films are okay but I hated their version of the joker for sure and I only ever liked Christian Bale in American Psycho. We need more animated batman movies with the animated series cast (minus mark hamill as he quit as the joker but the dude that does Bender did a good joker in Under The Red Hood).

John DiMaggio (Binder/Jake) does make a good joker. Like a modern adaptation of Hamill's joker. I think Mark Hamill only does the games now.

On another note, I love all the Batman films like SMB, there all great in there own right. even Batman & Robin, I saw it the day it came out and loved it.

[Prime Evil]

I just rewatched Batman and Robin a couple days ago, and I have to say that much of it is pretty good. About...half, I'd say. (The bat-credit-card, "Take two and call me in the morning," Robin's hotheadedness [to the point of self-parody] and a few other things detract.)

It works when you think about it as the conclusion of Bruce Wayne's story: at the end of Forever, he says "I'm no longer Bruce Wayne and Batman because I have to be; now, because I choose to be." In a way, he was destined to gradually shed the "my parents are dead" bit over the course of the four movies...it became unsustainable in the long term, especially with Robin around. And it is good to see this man have at long last a family of some kind. It's also good to see him at last be able to have fun with his own persona.

As for that other complaint, that the police have nothing to do...I figure, by this point, that Batman and Robin are sort of the "metahumans" taskforce (to borrow a term from Static Shock) of Gotham City, and the GCPD mostly chase the ordinary crooks, of which there are very few of.

...

Actually, Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy (and Bane) are the first real "metahumans" of the series. There's nothing really extraordinary about the Joker other than his survival of a fall in toxic waste; Catwoman, with her nine lives (more?) could be called a metahuman at a stretch; Penguin's got some bad juju he was born with, but nothing extraordinary; Two-Face's fall from grace wasn't life-threatening; the Riddler's intelligence could make him a metahuman...something to ponder, ladies 'n' germs.

[Redstar]

Thought that Joss Whedon talking of his failed pitch for a Batman reboot would be of interest here. According to GQ, Whedon was approached to pitch a concept for a new Batman film, but was rejected for one reason or another.

It was a while ago, between the day-glo Joel Schumacher sequels and the Chris Nolan reboot (which Whedon loves, don't get him wrong.) There was a lot more, in Whedon's take, about the orphaned Bruce Wayne as a morbid, death-obsessed kid. There was a scene—Whedon used to well up, just thinking about it—where young Bruce tries to protect this girl from being bullied in an alley, an alley like the one his parents were murdered in.

"And he's like this tiny 12-year-old who's about to get the shit kicked out of him. And then it cuts to Wayne Manor, and Alfred is running like something terrible has happened, and he finds Bruce, and he's back from the fight, and he's completely fine. And Bruce is like, 'I stopped them. I can stop them.' That was the moment for me. When he goes 'Oh, wait a minute; I can actually do something about this.' The moment he gets that purpose, instead of just sort of being overwhelmed by the grief of his parents' death."

So he goes in and pitches this. He's on fire, practically shaking. "And the executive was looking at me like I was Agent Smith made of numbers. He wasn't seeing me at all. And I was driving back to work, and I was like, 'Why did I do that? Why did I get so invested in that Batman story? How much more evidence do I need that the machine doesn't care about my vision? And I got back to work and got a phone call that Firefly was cancelled. And I was like, 'It was a rhetorical question! It was not actually a request! Come on!'"

[PowerGlove79]

I was lucky enough to catch a screening at the Cinerama in seattle last night at midnight, it was better than begins but not as good as The Dark Knight. I for one thought it was fitting end to the Nolan saga, I am not going to spoil anything other than to say it was a very satisfying moviegoing experience, Hans Zimmer's score was amazing, though I don't know if it was the movie or the theater but the score at times drowned out the dialogue because it was so bombastic.

Unfortunately when I got home, I read the news about this tragic event, and my thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. There really is not alot to say about this. We go to the movies to escape reality, not to have reality violently rear it's ugly head.

This man is a sick individual, there is no point into trying to understand what he did. It was a selfish act and a cowards act. At the end of the day, the most we can do as movie fans and humans in general is just live our lives and try to be positive and send love to the people who really need it. I'm sorry I don't want to turn this into a political discussion or such so I will just end it here. We are movie fans and nothing is going to deter us from enjoying what we have a true passion for.

[AngeloThomas]

The 1966 movie starring Adam West is one of my favorite Batman films. The actors are all fantastic, and I really enjoy the set design and costumes.

[Serum]

They just released the trailer for "The Dark Knight Returns: Part 1, which stars Peter Weller (RoboCop) as Batman-- and it's based on the best graphic novel ever!

[1upmushroom]

Aw, no Kevin Conroy?

[Serum]

Aw, no Kevin Conroy?

Trust me, Peter Weller blows Kevin Conroy out of the water.

[Prime Evil]

3. Batman Forever: 3 out of 5. Not a bad sequel, but it's a bit silly now and by far the first Batman managed to get the balance right. Though I enjoyed the set very well with the neon and all.

This was the first one I saw in theaters. I have vague memories of seeing Mask of the Phantasm at the cinemas on Christmas 1994, but there's a great black hole where most of my life before age 7-9 should be. I definitely remember seeing Forever in the movies, but not much else besides that.

Still, though, it's easily my favorite out of all of them, to the point where I'm in the middle of building a replica of the Nygmatech Box. The owners/reviewers of Batman-On-Film absolutely detest the very concept of the Box, but I say it's a very cool prop.

[Redstar]

Just watched Batman Begins for the first time. Phlibbit has been riding me about this for years, but it was only just now that I was able to get the film and sit down to enjoy it.

I must say, I really was missing out on an excellent hero's journey. Bale's arc as Bruce really is strong and well told through an excellent condensing of decades of comic backstory. Ra's al ghul being Bruce's mentor was a brilliant way to tie the villain directly into his arc without being as overbearing as the explicit killer of his parents. Moreover, several characters in the comics have been figures in Bruce's training, so Ra's al ghul fits perfectly.

I also very much appreciated that they depicted Bruce considering (and just about going through with) murdering Joe Chill. A lesser director/writer would have made him reconsider at the last moment, which just wouldn't have reverberated as much with his character and future arc.

Cillian Murphy was a perfect casting choice as the Scarecrow. Very subdued performance, even at the end, with just a tad of sociopathy and creepiness that suggests a darker side. His mask and the reason for having it just worked very well.

My only qualm with the film is the death of Neeson as Ra's al ghul, which is much like Burton killing off Nicholson as the Joker in his adaptation. You really could do so much more with the character, though from what little I've read he and the League of Shadows might return in some form in the final film of the trilogy, The Dark Knight Rises. It was, overall, very much enjoyable in that it got the basic conceit of "The Batman" exactly right while also grounding it in reality much more effectively than most other superhero films have ever managed. I'm eagerly anticipating finally watching The Dark Knight. If Ledger as the Joker is half as good as Murphy and Neeson it'll still be the perfect sequel.

[Phlibbit]

Needless to say, I'm extremely pleased that you finally made time to start watching this incredible trilogy. Now maybe you can catch The Dark Knight Rises while it's still in theaters!

Batman Begins has this great, timeless tone to it and like you said, one of my favorite things about the film is the way it condenses so much of Batman's history and origins into one concise and very well told film. I didn't like how Ra's al Ghul went out at first, but the key to dealing with most problems with these Nolan films is to remember it's based around plausibility and realism to some degree. Villains won't be around forever and nether will Batman--nothing can go on forever.

That's why the film's themes of being immortal through becoming a symbol are so important. I think you're really going to enjoy The Dark Knight. It really is the perfect sequel in pretty much every way. You'll probably need to watch it twice

[ultimateemail5000]

I just watched DKR, and I really enjoyed it. But I still think Dark Knight is the best of the 3. There's always a movie where the hero is down, but has to push himself to get his powers/strength back. Here that's what Bruce had to do. He did it, he overcame it.

I don't know where the film franchise will go after this, maybe a Robin spin-off, or start from scratch. If anything they should make a new Batman movie 10 years from now, and have his costume blue and grey. I want to see a Batman today ripped out of the comics of the old days, where Bruce is sitting on his chair smoking a pipe, reading the papers. Robin actually be a 12 year old kid.

Also those who saw DKR, did anyone else hear Sean Connery as Darth Vader, whenever Bane spoke?

[Serum]

Also those who saw DKR, did anyone else hear Sean Connery as Darth Vader, whenever Bane spoke?

Yeah, every time Bane opened mouth, all I could think of was this...